Interview with Michelle Grabner (Part 1 of 4)
Michelle Grabner is an artist, curator, and professor at the School of the Art Institute of Chicago. She is also the curator Newtonland, the current exhibition at White Flag Projects. I had the pleasure of interviewing Michelle on the morning of the show’s opening; this interview will be posted here in four parts.
Lynna Borden: What attracted you to this space? I know it’s very different from both the Suburban and the Poor Farm.
Michelle Grabner: Well, Matt and White Flag Projects have an excellent reputation. Not being from St. Louis, I don’t really have a grasp on how White Flag plays out politically in St. Louis but, since I’ve been here, I’m really getting a sense of its uniqueness and how it holds a complementary relationship to programming at the Contemporary, the Kemper, Boots, and even Laumeier Sculpture Park. As a visitor, I find this very exciting.
After talking to Matt the other day, I realized that White Flag embodies the same sensibility and relationship to contemporary art as Midway Contemporary in Minneapolis. I have great respect for Midway’s programming, so I’m really at home here in terms of White Flag’s commitment to not just playing out exhibitions that feature local talent, but actually contextualizing them within international art practices. This is always a difficult, but necessary, project if one is really committed to raising the cultural stakes in cities that are left of center. Institutions like the Contemporary here or the Museum of Contemporary Art in Chicago, certainly that is their mandate, but because they operate on a larger scale, their programming and their curatorial ideas get played out in a very slow way, sometimes so slow that they often appear behind the curve when it comes to examining what is contemporary. It’s spaces like Midway, LAX in LA, or White Flag Projects here that I think are doing the good work in terms of risk and breadth of contemporary practice and discourse.
LB: That’s true. Here, we can incorporate more artists and have exhibitions more frequently than larger institutions.
MG: That’s right, and institutions like the Contemporary or the MCA have obligations to various audiences. They’re always analyzing who their audience is and catering to them and their many expectations. Sometimes these institutions develop really great educational programs but sometimes catering to an audience leads to watered-down programming and an over-emphasis on making the institution social. But here at White Flag, it seems that your primary audience is the international art apparatus. Although this is my first time here, I’ve been following the on-goings at White Flag over the last two years from my vantage point in Chicago. I know there are curators and artists in Europe who have asked me specifically about White Flag, so my observation is that White Flag is more expansive and constructed very differently from the audiences that comprise other institutions.
LB: I feel like the work here can also push the boundaries a little bit more than in a larger institution.
MG: That’s right, or try things out—risk something. That’s my complaint all the time about other institutions. They play it safe. Artists and/or curators can try something out here and bigger institutions can’t fathom failure.
- Lynna Borden, Intern
This Wednesday March 10th, an archival 1975 interview with Louise Bourgeois will be screened as the last installment of the season for White Flag’s DRINKS series. It’s a free event with free drinks (compliments of WFP and Schlafly Beer.)
Science and art can sometimes be seen as being at odds with one another—fact versus feeling, the tangible versus the intangible. It’s rare when the objectivity of science and the subjective nature of art come together in a harmonious pairing; however, artist and curator Michelle Grabner bridges the gap in Newtonland, an exhibition that opens this Saturday, February 27th from 7 to 10 p.m., at White Flag Projects.
Mike Bidlo has made his career recreating and appropriating the art of other artists, replicating the work of everyone from Jackson Pollock to Marcel Duchamp to Henri Matisse to Julian Schnabel. Though the popular revival of appropriation-based art (1980-90’s) has passed, the practice continues to be relevant in part because of its reliance on the idea of re-contextualization. While other artists – such as Bidlo’s contemporary Sherrie Levine – make vast changes to the original work, Bidlo’s reproductions seek to imitate precisely the image, scale, and materials of their source. What’s more, he does not work from the original, but from reproductions, making his pieces twice-removed from their selected source material.
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The next installment of White Flag’s DRINKS series will take place Wednesday, February 10th from 5-7pm and will feature a 1979 interview with American artist Robert Ryman (in addition to free happy hour drinks, of course).
The three artworks Sara Greenberger Rafferty has on view in Love & Theft at White Flag Projects all prominently feature 1970’s-era comedians (Valerie Harper, Vicki Lawrence, and Joyce Dewitt). While these works could be considered portraits, their goals are a far cry from what is traditionally expected of the genre.
This Saturday, January 23rd, between 7 and 10 p.m., White Flag Projects celebrates the opening of Love & Theft, a group exhibition currently on view and featuring artists Mike Bidlo, Dutes Miller, Asher Penn, and Sara Greenberger Rafferty. Each of these artists explores preexisting figural motifs in order to either reinvigorate or dismantle the appropriated image.
A 1983 interview with boundary-pushing artist/poet/designer Vito Acconci will be screened this Wednesday, January 20th, from 5-7 p.m., as the latest installment of White Flag’s DRINKS series. In addition to the video screening, which will commence at 6 p.m., the evening promises complimentary cocktails and good conversation (well, maybe).
In conjunction with the contemporary artists featured in White Flag Project’s current show, PRETHUNDERDOME, a Delicious account was created to catalog all of the websites we could find that address end-of-world subjects (